Advanced Article Spinning Techniques With The Best Spinner

Article spinning when done correctly is highly effective. I covered the topic briefly with my tiered link building tutorials but wanted to get into more detail.

A lot of people don’t fully understand content spinning or don’t put the required time and effort in to create a high quality spin that will pass human moderation.

If you think that spinning doesn’t work anymore then you’re doing something wrong – watch the tutorial below and you will see what I mean.

What You Will Learn

If you’re familiar with spinning the first part of the tutorial won’t teach you anything new but a good 55 minutes focuses on advanced techniques & my personal process step by step.

  1. What article spinning is
  2. The benefits of article spinning
  3. How article spinning works
  4. How to spin articles the right way
  5. Advanced spinning techniques including my personal process

Underneath the video you can download a pack of sample articles that show you the step by step evolution from the seed article all the way through to the final sentence spun article complete with images, videos and contextual links.

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Resources In The Video

TheBestSpinner (download the trial) – It really is The Best Spinner
URL Lister – Firefox addon to export tab URL’s
Copy URLS Expert – Firefox addon to export the YouTube URL’s

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114 Responses

Nick Roberts
11.6.2012

heads up! it's not loading on my iPhone?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Try it now, if not – do the other tutorial videos work on your phone?

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Nick Roberts Reply:

will check for you, pretty sure they did.

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Nick Roberts Reply:

yeh, the tiered link building ones do, but this doesn't.
ps. just realised I am only about 15 mins from you!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Should be working now.

When you say 15 minutes away, where is that?

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Niccolò Angeli
11.6.2012

great video! a quick suggestion… after sharing the page the sharing buttons are being hidden, that is not the best solution as I have shared it on google+ , but if now I want to also "like it" on facebook I cant' :-P

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hmm good point – thanks for wanting to share the content multiple times. I will have to have a think about this as it may confuse the user journey/process somewhat

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11.6.2012

Really enjoyed the video, Matt! I'm already pretty experienced with article spinning but you did show some techniques I've yet to use – like spinning images. Thanks!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi Casey,

Glad you enjoyed it – sorry it was so long!

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11.7.2012

Questions
1. Why not use Spinner Cheif 2 it is a one off fee?
2.Also when you finish spinning articles and you spin to see your end result how do you go about finding the right location to edit? Mening I have a 1200 word article and everything looks good except in paragraph two I added a word that does not make sense how do you locate that word without messing up your spin text? I have had this issue with that in the past because I am still learning how to spin.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

1. I've always used TBS from the day it was launched – you can use any software to apply the lessons in this videos though.

2. Click on the 'spun article' tab and then 'plain text' now you can preview the actual output. If a word/phrase doesn't make sense just click on it ^^

Hope that helps

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Syamsul Alam Reply:

Spinner chief sucks, the UI is very UN-intuitive. Very buggy, hang constantly, and there's no 'spin selected paragraph together' feature.
Spinchimp basic is better — a lot better — than spinner chief but also buggy if you spin your article so much… but if it does the work if you don't spun your article too much.
Multispinner is crap.
The best spinner live up to its name.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

I use the ‘spin selected paragraph’ together all of the time, its like an essential tool for me quite often I open TBS just to use that.

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hydride Reply:

I use SpinnerChief II. It’s pretty much the same as TBS. I am just more use to the interface of SCII. The interface is a lot better now compared to when it was released (TBS was too). But now they’re both great.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Yeah it will be a matter of personal preference, I tried SCII and didn’t like it but thats more to do with me using TBS since it launched than anything else.

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11.8.2012

Thanks to this video, I just spent 5 hours to create 500 words article with 99% uniqueness, with different formatting, different bullet list, different image, different video embed, different link, different anchor text, and different on everything. Now it's time to harvest all the hard work.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Well done mate! Were you happy with the overall quality for the work you've put in? Once you've done it a few times it will take half that time :)

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Syamsul Alam Reply:

word 'happy' can't express how i feel when i know that i just finish spinning this article. spinning is like ten times more boring than creating the article. lol….

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

And thats precisely why I outsource it :)

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Hugo Reply:

Matt, who does you article spinning, id like to possibly give my articles to them as i find it to be very time consuming.

Thanks

PS Thank You for the great videos.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

I hire & train staff directly sorry – I have never found any service/person that can deliver the quality I want (although they all say they can)

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hydride Reply:

I guess when I have the money to outsource, I’ll do that too. =D I can’t imagine the amount of time you’ve saved.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Not only time, but money as well! By doing something myself that I could outsource for $1-2 an hour means I was effectively working for $1-2 an hour.

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11.9.2012

Congratulations on another superb tutorial. I learned a lot more than I expected to, I have some great ideas to go deeper and deeper within each spin and include all sorts after watching this.

How many articles can you produce from one well written 600 word article? how many links can you create from that same article & how many stick etc with this approach?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Thanks very much :) Surprised people are taking an hour to watch it really lol

There isn't a blanket answer as each spin is different – I use the generate & compare tool until I get nothing less than ~70% ish usually a couple hundred times or something like that

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Niccolò Angeli
11.16.2012

I think that a very much easier way to spin videos it is to just spin the videos IDs instead of spinning the entire embed code… I just tried on TBS and it seems to work well.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

This doesn't work because the video ID gets mentioned twice in the code which means you have to guarantee the same video ID is used in both locations.

Spinning them independently doesn't allow you to do that

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Niccolò Angeli
11.16.2012

uh! ehm… but doing this I get the 2 video IDs in embed code different, because they are being spinned… not good :-(

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

See my reply below ^^

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11.21.2012

Great share Matt!

What if someone would want to outsource this step? Do you know of any service that does at least sentence, word spinning? With good quality?

Then implementing images/videos/bulletins should´t be that much of a problem.

Any idea´s?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

None that I'm aware of sorry as I hire full time spinners and train them directly.

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11.26.2012

This post was very helpful and displayed a deep level of thought and analysis.

I am interested in learning how you set up the FB/G+/Twitter gate to obtain the hidden content.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

I'm using http://www.matthewwoodward.co.uk/get/ViralDownloadPlugin with a few tweaks here n there!

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Paul Henry
11.29.2012

Hi Matt, what percentage of 'uniqueness' would you feel was necessary in order to add 'rel=author' to the spinned articles. Or maybe you wouldn't advise it at all – it'll be good to hear your thoughts on this…

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

I dont have any personal experience in doing so however I wouldn’t be surprised if we have to evolve our tactics to incorporate something like that in the future.

Certainly an interesting topic!

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Great Info here for syndicating your content.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Cheers Daryl, you guys getting on ok down there?

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Matthew Prestwich
12.3.2012

This video is so helpful it is sick! Nice work and once again thanks for the great content!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Thanks for sacrificing an hour of your life to watch it – I was worried it was to long!

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Josen Ruiseco
12.9.2012

Hey Matt… I wanted to let you know that there seems to be a problem with the BayFiles site and your HiRes file downloads. I have been trying for over 24 hours to get one or the other file and it keeps erroring out. You might want to try using a different service. At a minimum you might try yourself and see what you experience. Best regards…

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Do you have any recommendations as to an alternative service?

I've also had issues with Mediafire so need to take a look at an alternative way to deliver these

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David Purcell
12.11.2012

This download link is now down..

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Fix coming asap!

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12.20.2012

Great video Matt, thanks for making it. It is a lot of work I know so thanks for the effort. Invaluable info.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

No worrys glad you enjoyed it :)

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Simon Paterson
12.26.2012

Great video Matt! I learnt so much here.

But i was wondering when would you actually use these well spun articles? Not for article directories, as they don’t accept images and videos, not for tier 1 web 2.0s as these should perhaps be hand written (or am i wrong with this thinking?)

When do you actually use these well spun articles with images and videos?

thanks

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Well you spin the articles to the specification of where you are going to post them.

Obviously if the targets are article directories you wouldn’t add images/videos

But if your going to be posting on web 2.0s well your good to go in that respect :)

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Batuhan
1.1.2013

Hello Matt

And thank you so much for this awesome video.

I have a question.

I wrote a article like yours and tried use with SenukeXCr but SenukeXCr said your article not contain #links# ( or something like that ) but I started campaing.

Is it a problem ? because Senuke only use #links#, it’ll use only my link not use related site links.

Have you got any experience

and I’m sorry for bad English

Thank you
Batuhan

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

No worrys glad you enjoyed :)

The #LINKS# tag is something you can use in SENuke XCR if you want to but it is also fine to just use the HTML like I have taught you here :)

Cheers!

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Batuhan Reply:

Thank you Matt :)

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

No worrys glad you enjoyed it :)

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1.3.2013

Great article this is exactly what I needed to know!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Glad you enjoyed it :) Let me know if you have any questions!

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TriniGuy
1.6.2013

This is an excellent video!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Thanks (= glad you enjoyed it!

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1.11.2013

This is definitely one of the best advanced article spinning tutorials I have seen! Outstanding work Matt, great contribution. This is now a must-see video for all of my outsourcers!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Cheers Mitch – let me know if your guys have any follow up questions!

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Trevor
1.11.2013

Matt, what I read about different formats of articles etc is interesting. I have a few competitors where they have maybe 5-10 subjects that they have submitted to article sites. But they all seem unique, different formats and high quality, but due to the limit of subjects I want to say they are just master minds at spinning. What would you say are the best and easiest ways to obtain links with master spun articles? Article Directories, Web 2.0s, maybe even guest blogs??

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

That sounds like what is going on to me – like I said spinning when done right will even leave humans confused as to whether it is all coming from one super spun article or not :)

The best way to obtain links? I’ve got you covered – http://www.matthewwoodward.co.uk/tutorials/the-ultimate-guide-to-tiered-link-building-part-1/

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pix113
1.14.2013

Matt, it seems scrapebox image grabber has removed small as an option, looks like back to the manual method of using url lister!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Are you sure? I still have it on all my copies (updated to latest version as well)

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Kiter
1.19.2013

Thanks for the extra tips in the video!
That are you thinking about “ubertoolz” and their format of article spinning? Looks like their format even more advanced.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

I’ve really played with ubertoolz properly =/

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ChrisCD
2.6.2013

Great Tutorial. I’m looking at working on some my articles and was looking for a tool. TBS looks like it will fit the bill.

cd :O)

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

No worrys =D

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ChrisCD
2.6.2013

BTW, it looks like the download links is still broken for the samples files and such.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Are you sure? Just tested it – looking good here?

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2.12.2013

Thanks Matt for this awesome tutorial. I’d say this is the best tutorial on spinning technique I can found. Please keep producing high quality tuts like this. (Note: I’m waiting tuts on scraping list for UD, please….)

Just finished watching this long video and a lot of great tips and tricks to grab. And thanks for image spintax included.

I try using image spintax and when I check on TBS HTML preview, my image never shown in the center. I check you’re using centre rather than center. I change that but the image still never on center, only left and right.

Is it TBS bugs or anything else I should worry about?

Also, I try to include _blank as additional parameters. Does it help more randomization?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Scraping your own list for UD is covered in http://www.matthewwoodward.co.uk/tutorials/the-ultimate-guide-to-tiered-link-building-part-2/

I dont use the HTML preview in TBS really, as long as I know the code is right I dont care what TBS says :P

Yes you could add the target attribute to your spinning – kudos for expanding on my teachings :)

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Kaushik
2.12.2013

At last I got some very good tutorial on article spinning. I appreciate this task. Matthew, will you kindly get us a review on spin rewriter3. I am interested about their NLP, natural language processing, algo. Does it really worthy?

From your tutorials I have faith on your true review and your capacity to churn out all cream from a simple tool.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

I will give it a try but nothing comes close to The Best Spinner + The Human Mind IMO

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willinabox
2.13.2013

any reason you don’t do 4x,5x sentence spins?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

There is no need to go that far at present and I actually keep track of how many times each of my spun articles have been used to ensure that continued publication doesn’t result in duplicate/overlapping content.

So if I was going to increase the number of times I was posting it, I would add those additional sentences.

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willinabox
2.13.2013

Matt,

Have you used ubertoolz spinning? What do you think about this?

http://www.ubertoolz.com/demo/UberCubez.php

Ive heard good things, and you might be able to remove spammy content entirely from your link building campaign. Haven’t tested but im guessing you have came across this and I was curious what your thoughts were

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Like yourself I have heard good things but I have no personal hands on experience

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Francky
3.4.2013

When I see advanced stuff like that, it makes me pretty damn happy as I know very few people will actually go to such a great extent. Exceptional stuff mate thank you!

I do have a question though. When it comes to spinning images, in the example we saw one of the them did not fit nicely with the text as it was too big. If we select “small” images in scrapebox, does it take care of that issue? In other words, how to make sure that the images selected are not gonna look too big/small/out of proportions compared to the text?

Cheers mate and congrats again.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Thanks :)

Yes if you select the small images that will sort it out, I thought I had done that though ^^

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peteribb
3.15.2013

Hi Matt,

Thank you for the best tutorial on advanced spinning I have seen, after two years trawling the net.

A few questions,

Is it OK to spin the Money Site URL to offer the choice of different landings. And, if so do I have to change anything in the SeNuke set up? If say i have spun the home page and two optional pages?

Is the link beneath the videos the large Blue Text saying “Download My Image Spinning Template, Sample Article & Videos”

If so it doesn’t work for me.

Thanks for all of your efforts.

Regards

Peter Ibb

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Yes you can do that if you want to – just make sure that spinning in different links/anchors doesn’t degrade the readabiltiy of the article.

What your reading isn’t a link – in fact your just not reading :P

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Tom Reply:

Matt

1)I know you only use one money site link in the article, but can you have two, one in the first paragraph and the other in the last paragraph. Would that give two good backlinks back from this article where ever it is posted with UD?

2)Secondly, could you add a link to the article, to both an article page on your money site as well as the home page?

Tom

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

HI Tom,

1) You can have as many as you like – but thats not how I do things. It makes it more obvious your self promoting and if you did it for every link would remove any natural look.

2) No, google ‘reciprocal linking’ – 10 years ago though and you would be onto a winner!

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Hornet25
3.21.2013

Hi Matthew,

I wrote a 550 word article and set about spinning it as per your instructions. I reckon the whole process took me 4-5 hours (with a few tea breaks included!). In all honesty it was pretty mind numbing stuff and by the end of the process I found myself taking short-cuts and probably not maximising the depth of the word spin.

On that basis, I went looking for other options to see if there was anything out there that could solve the monotony of the project. I came across “The Leading Articles” from somebody called Vita Vee. For $12 you can get a 500 word article spun 5 times at paragraph level and 5 times at sentence level, but with no word or synonym spinning. If you order 8 articles they come down to $6 each. They try and convince people that synomyn spinning is too obvious to Google who already know the synomyns and account for them when looking for duplicate content.

I was wondering if you have ever used these services and what your views were on whether synomyn spinning can and is being spotted.

Thanks for all the effort you put into your site.

Ian

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi Ian,

4-5 hours is a good crack for your first go! Kudos sir, with practice you can nail it down to ~2hours.

I agree it is mind numbing which is why I outsource it!

Vita Vee is a knowledgable guy and I have learnt from him in the past but I have no personal experience with his service(s).

However they sound ok as a possible source article so you can just do the words/phrases/images/videos/links yourself?

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Tom
3.24.2013

Matt

In my spun articles, is there any harm using 50 images from one of my other websites as I own these images, or do you need image urls from a variety of sources, would this affect google ranking, or SEO?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

The more random/drunk the better – having all the images from a same domain leaves a pretty big footprint right?

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Tom Reply:

Hi Matt

Okay, get your point.

Is there any harm including some of the images from your own money site or must all the image urls have to come from other locations?

Tom

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi Tom,

That would also leave a footprint :) Drink a bottle of vodka, then do the spinning.

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greg
3.25.2013

Hi matt – excellent tutorial..got me thinking of stuff i don’t do like spinning images..

by the way could not get access to your templates despite sharing..on fb and twitter

can you send as zip to my email?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Which network did you try and share with? Will bash it over now!

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Daelbing
3.30.2013

Wow from two days I’m watching all videos ;)

ad re watching it again to learn more, lots of good stuff to learn.

Thx for YOUR time for developing it for US..

Liked at facebook :) and checking for next interesting things..

Do you consider to make Webinaria or live presentation / question -> answer ?

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi Daelbing,

Thanks for watching them =D

Could you give me a better idea about what you would expect from a live presentation/Q&A session? Sounds like a great idea!

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Micsten
4.6.2013

Hey Matthew, thanks for the tutorial. Really useful stuff.

It has taken me a looooong time to do the first one properly. Like a day to get to the point were I had article sentences and words spun.

My first attempt was rubbish! I was trying to spin the words much more than I needed, it felt like it would make sense at the time I was spinning them, but reading it back when spun it was mixing present and past-tense and mixing up ‘an’ when ‘a’ was required for the sentence to flow properly.

So I started over and I think I am getting there, this attempt reads much better. Still not great but much better, I guess it’s a matter of practice makes perfect.

How many articles can you spin effectively per day? I know you out-source it now but I’m just wondering how many articles a day I should be aiming at.

Also, I don’t suppose you would like to divulge how/where you outsource the work? Do you have a service you use to put you in contact with workers?

I would be very interested in getting myself set up with someone I can trust to produce work for me of the standard I require.

Thanks for the blog, I now visit it daily!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi Micsten,

My outsources can produce 3 of these per day in around 8.5 hours – I can do each one in about 2 hours personally.

I hire people from onlinejops.ph and give them paid tests and pay them to watch the training video – this quickly weeds out the quality from the crap.

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Micsten Reply:

Thanks Matt, I’ll give it a go!

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Chris
4.9.2013

Hey Matt, great job on the video!! Thanks for taking the time to share that. I always knew the basics of how to spin text but now I can say I know how to do it effectively.

I’m curious about the method you use to add links to the articles though – wouldn’t that possibly be boosting your competition for the same keywords you’re trying to rank for?

Anyway thanks again! I really enjoy watching your videos and learn a lot each time.

-Chris

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi Chris,

No worrys :)

Yes you do end up building a few links to the competition but thats the trade off for not highlighting the fact you are manipulating Google.

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4.24.2013

Would you say it’s safe to use spun content pointing directly to your money site even if we’re getting over 90% uniqueness or would you suggest using the spun content pointing directly to your tier 1′s? I watched your vids (great job by the way) and as you know you’re using spun content pointing to your money site.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Assuming that uniquness count is based on the safe amount of times you can use the content using the generate and compare tool then yes.

But obviously if you post it to many times, it will become duplicate eventually.

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Vance
4.25.2013

Great, thanks Matty. By the way, what are your thoughts on using kontent machine to quickly generate videos/images (highly spun) to add to the best spinner? I know it doesn’t change the layout/position of the image etc but its a really quick way of doing it.

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Yeah you could use that function if the desired output is the same

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5.4.2013

Thanks so much for the tutorial.

This video was just the training I was looking for!

Off to spin an article now ;)

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Goood luck =D

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Louis
5.8.2013

Hi Matthew, thank you for an excellent tutorial. I have gone through it twice already. I looked for the spincode that orders the image code elements around but can’t see it anywhere. Maybe I am just blind and it is starring me right in the face. Can you please tell me where I can get it, if it’s still available please?:)

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Its staring you right in the face

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Louis Reply:

Ha ha it did, thanks :) Damn good method!

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

You would be amazed by how many people take the time to email me asking the same thing, which takes considerably longer than reading the page ^^

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5.13.2013

Hey Matthew great tutorial!

That’s the way I am spinning my articles for about half a year and I am glad I found out I did it the correct way haha.

I am thinking to provide this as a service how much do you think I should charge for it?

Could you tell me prices ranges in $ for:

1 Spun Sentence + 500 word article
2 Spun Sentences + 500 word article

1 Spun Sentence + 750 word article
2 Spun Sentences + 750 word article

1 Spun Sentence + 1000 word article
2 Spun Sentences + 1000 word article

No Spun Sentence + 500/750/1000 article

Keep sharing knowledge and love man
you rock :D

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

I would pay around $30-$35 for a completed article to this specification with the images/videos done already

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Pasc
5.14.2013

Hi Matt!!

great tutorial!

how much would you pay for this kind of service
(excluding the photo and video spin just the text!)

thanks and keep it up! :D

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Around $20-$25?

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5.15.2013

Hi Matt,

First of all a big thanks for making these videos! I’m still a big noob but with every video I watch from you I have the feeling I became less noob.. :P

I also watched your “Ultimate Guide To Tiered Link Building”, I really love that serie, and in part 2 you recommend to buy 3 articles and then manual spin them.

After I saw the amount of labour you have to put in spinning these articles, and seeing the high uniqueness of all… Why not get 3 good articles from ezinearticles?

With the spinning method you use they’ll still get a very, very high uniqueness I suppose.

This would save me approximately $20 on every campaign, which I think is a questionable point. And you don’t have to wait for your writers to complete their job.

What are your thoughts about this?

Thanks in advance!

Arno

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Haha glad you’re enjoying them!

The reason is because I don’t take shortcuts and if I’m going to do something right, well just do it right especially over the sake of $20.

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Arno Reply:

Hi,

Thanks for reply!

I get your point, and I must agree with you.

One quick question: Do you know where I can get foreign language Thesaurus’s? And in particular, Dutch?

Thanks in advance.

Arno

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Matthew Woodward Reply:

Hi,

Not sure to be honest, and I hate to be that guy – but have you tried Google ^^

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